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AuraofMana · Feb 16, 2008, 11:22 AM // 11:22

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With these said, I'm not saying it's immoral to make opinions about both games on this forum, but really, people just won't stop making irrelevant arguments, which many is unwanted here, to the corresponding topics. In simple words, posting arguments about how World of Warcraft is a better game on a Guild Wars forum is more or less a flamebait.

And reversely, posting how much GW owns and WOW sucks is pretty much the same thing. Hypocritical? Yes.

And so what if you play both? Because last time I checked, you can like more than one game, even though all the above posters tend to give the illusion that it is not possible.

And really, since all these people want to talk about how much WOW sucks and GW owns, for once I would like to hear some legit reasoning as to why and how. Because so far, no one has ever been able to answer reasonably why GW is failing in terms of population vs. WOW.

roshanabey2 · Feb 16, 2008, 11:48 AM // 11:48

I really don't see why anyone should be worried. It should be Anet who should be worried as it is competition with the very good pvp system, It is only Anet lossing potential customers not us. As someone said before it doesn't matter who did it first, it matters who did it best. I If you see anything from this, it would be on the positive side, this is competition on the pvp side for Anet, and really that is a good thing. Anet can learn from this and tweak up their pvp.

btw: I would like this confirmed, auto max level (level 20/level 70) for pvp I am pretty sure that this is a Anet idea,(I am talking about pvp and pve mmos, not just pvp ones.) .If Anet made the idea 'first' they can sue them if they really want to, though i doubt they will win fighting the finical giant blizzard not mention the fact games cpoies each other ideas anyway

~ Dan ~ · Feb 16, 2008, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

I wasn't even touching the financial success.

If you are going to say "GW is superior" or "WoW is crap," you might as well have a valid reason.

I think GW is better. I reckon WoW is crap. Why? Because it doesn't appeal to me. I don't find personally that WoW is fun, whereas GW is. My valid reason = my opinion, and you can't prove that wrong.

roshanabey2 · Feb 16, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

No one ever looks in the off topic forum, bring this back to riverside inn, people like these sort of threads.

Malice Black · Feb 16, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by roshanabey2

No one ever looks in the off topic forum, bring this back to riverside inn, people like these sort of threads.

No. Stop being bad.

roshanabey2 · Feb 16, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

No. Stop being bad.

lol sorry. But i was looking this for sometime in Riverside Inn

Yang Whirlwind · Feb 16, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

Wait! Is this a thread about WoW? Nevermind then!

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Originally Posted by Solange

Guild Wars WAS doing it perfectly and could have continued it on until they saturated the skills

by saturated i mean they kept adding too many skills pvp wise and classes that each campaign came out would change the landscape instead of keeping the great core game they had

Its like creating a starcraft tournament and then changing the rules 180 for the next tournament leaving out the previous playerbase who enjoyed that current game

thats why you saw many of those oldschool guilds leave and move on because the game changed so much with each campaign and addition of new classes/skills

Yeah! - We wouldn't want things to change! Making people think and evolve as players would be bad!

Malice Black · Feb 16, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

WoW is for serious PvE players aka no lifers
GW is for cheap people/weekend players

All the comparison you need.

Bryant Again · Feb 16, 2008, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Spike

no actually it DOES NOT.

Linky.

If you're counting in bots, the same applies to GW. WoW still probably has about 10x GW's playerbase.

Malice Black · Feb 16, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Could be tempted back to WoW myself. Lack the time to play properly though.

Bryant Again · Feb 16, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Spike

If you belive blizzard press releases then I have some nice land and a bridge to sell you. Oh and blizzard have admited that thier figures are NOT REPEAT NOT for active players but everyone who has EVER played the game in anyway what so ever. This include trials, buddy keys and people who have since quit. Also even IF they DID have that amount of players they would be makeing at least three times as much money as they actually do.

From the link I posted earlier:

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Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules.

i.e. You're either lying or terribly misinformed.

The rest of your post I...can't really comment on. I don't want to get in more of a fight than I already am.

Snow Bunny · Feb 16, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

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Originally Posted by Spike

Oh and malice your wrong as usual. I'm a serious PVE player AND I have a life and I play GW.

If you're a serious player (6+ hours/day) I'd wager you don't have much of a life.

Maybe it's just me

Zinger314 · Feb 17, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I don't know why I'm even posting this.

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Originally Posted by Spike

zinger if you want reasons for why wow sucks here they are
1) its made by blizzard
2) its warcraft
3) you have to pay
4) its nothing by grind
5) crappy graphics
6) most players are "leet" 2 year olds.
7) the pvp is very UN balanced

Reasons GW is better

1) Its NOT made by blizzard
2) The story is original (unlike wow)
3) Its FREE
4) You don't have to grind if you don't want to
5) Very nice Graphics
6) Most pve players are NOT "leet" 2 year olds
7) the pvp is balanced (well sorta) only important if you like that sort of thing.

1) Huh? How the heck is that relevant? Need I remind you that ArenaNet's founders came from Blizzard?
2) GW's story is original? Whaa? GW has four end-of-the-world plots.
3) GW is not "free." You still have to purchase all the campaigns/expansions to be competitive. Regardless, the monthly fee in WoW provides many advantages, such as GM support and an AH.
4) You don't have to grind in WoW if you don't want to either. Apparently you missed the memo on welfare epics.
5) GW's graphics are more realistic, yes, but not "better." Graphics is subjective, not objective. WoW, however, has much more varied design.
6) I've encountered mostly idiots in GW. (when I don't H/H). I've encountered very few in WoW.
7) The PvP is somewhat unbalanced in both games. However, WoW actually does a full-scale balance regularly...

Look up "objective" in the dictionary.

Bryant Again · Feb 17, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

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Originally Posted by Spike

Like I said Bryant Again if you belive blizzard press releases or you think they would never lie about sub numbers I have some land and a bridge to sell you. You can beleave them if you want. I KNOW better.

I'd just like to know your sources. I've provided mine.

Zinger: Do you still play or is your account still inactive? I'm not criticizing, just want to know what you're up to.

Moonlit Azure · Feb 17, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Risky Ranger

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Imitation is suicide.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

~ Dan ~ · Feb 17, 2008, 11:24 AM // 11:24

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Originally Posted by Spike

zinger if you want reasons for why wow sucks here they are
1) its made by blizzard

They gave us Diablo.

roshanabey2 · Feb 17, 2008, 01:08 PM // 13:08

isn't this pvp realm in wow for only certain period of time anyway.

DreamRunner · Feb 17, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

They gave us Diablo.

No, Blizzard North did, which isn't around today.

Bryant Again · Feb 17, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by roshanabey2

isn't this pvp realm in wow for only certain period of time anyway.

Do you mean that "PvP realms are temporary" or something? If that's so, then nope, they don't go away.

Edot: Ooooh nevermind I know what you mean. Yes, you're right.

XBC · Feb 17, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Having been hacked in Guild Wars after about a year and a half of playing, I decided to invest in WoW. I played WoW for about a year, and I must admit that was the most God forsakenly boring game I ever played. OHELLO I shall grind to level sixty(seventy wasn't released until right around the time I quit), begin to PvP, and find my character to be unbalanced. Therefore, I grind another character to sixty and HOLY ASSRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOINGLY unbalanced because Blizzard tried to balance other classes with a recent patch.

Oh and for whomever claimed that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery:
Imitation is suicide, Ralph Waldo Emerson.